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Wednesday, September 12, 2012
Scottish Viking connection...
Kvenland was the name given to the country now known as Finland and some of the surrounding areas. Little is known of the early kings of Kvenland except their names and the dates of their birth. King Fornjotur was the first Kvenland king born in 160 and died in 250. The people of Kvenland also mixed with the Scottish people in the northern Orkney Islands.
According to the Orkneyinga Saga, "There was a king called Fornjotur who ruled over Finland and Kvenland, the countries stretching to the east of what we call the Gulf of Bothnia, which lies opposite the White Sea. Fornjotur had three sons, Hler (whom we also call AEgir), a second called Logi and a third, Kari, the father of Frosti, who was in turn the father of Snaer the Old, the father of Thorri. He had two sons, Nor and Gor and a duaghter, Goi." According to legend, Fornjotur was also the father of Karl, Hlessey, and Gmir. Nor founded Norway (Nor's way) and Gor was known as the "Sea King". Goi was abducted by Hrolf of Bjard, son of the giant Svadi. Nor challenged Hrolf for the return of his sister and the battle ended with Nor getting Hrolf's sister for his wife and Hrolf keeping Goi as his wife. The Orkneyinga Saga goes on to say, "Earl Rognvald campaigned with King Harald Fine Hair who gave him charge of North More, South More and Romsdale. Earl Rognvald married Ragnhild, the daughter of Hrolf Nose, and it was their son, Hrolf, who conquered Normandy. This Hrolf was so big that no horse could carry him, which is why he was given the name Gongu-Hrolf. The earls of Rouen and the kings of England are descended from him."
Kings of Kvenland
King Fornjotur Kvenland b. 160 Finland, d. 250 Finland
Children:
Karl Fornjotur Kvenland
King Kari Fornjotursson Kvenland
Logi Fornjotursson Kvenland
Hlessey Fornjotursson Kvenland
Hler Fornjotursson Kvenland
King Kari Fornjotur Kvenland b. 185 Finland, d. 209 Finland
Children:
Frosti Karasson Kvenland
King Frosti Karasson Kvenland b. 210 Finland, d. 239 Finland
Children:
Siokul Frostasson Kvenland
Snaer Jokulsson Kvenland
King Jokull Frostasson Kvenland b. 240 Finland, d. 274 Finland
Children:
Snaer Jokulsson Kvenland b. 275 Finland, d. 301 Raumsdal, Norway
Thorri Snaersson Kvenland b. 320 Raumsdal, Norway, d. 344 Raumsdal, Norway
Gorr Thorasson Kvenland b. 365 Raumsdal, Norway, d. 418 Raumsdal, Norway
Heytir Gorrsson Kvenland b. 425 Raumsdal, Norway, d. 499 Raumsdal, Norway
Svidri Heytsson Kvenland b. 600 Raumsdal, Norway, d. 649 Norway
Sveidi Svidrasson Kvenland b. 650 Raumsdal, Norway, d. 699 Raumsdal, Norway
Halfdan Sveidasson Kvenland b. 700 Oppland, Norway, d. 749 Oppland, Norway
Ivar Halfdansson Kvenland b. 770 Oppland, Norway, d. 824 Oppland, Norway
Eystein Glumra Ivarsson b. 800 Maer, Nord, Norway, d. 846 Maer, Nord, Norway
Rognvald I. Eysteinsson b. 830 Maer, Nord, Norway, d. 890 Orkney Islands, Scotland
Einar Rognvaldsson b. 852 Maer, Nord, Norway, d. Orkney Islands, Scotland
Thorfinn I Einarsson b. 890 Orkney Islands, Scotland, d. Mound, Hoxa, Scotland
Hlodver Thorfinnsson b. 924 Orkney, Scotland, d. 988 Hofn, Caithness, Scotland
Sigurd Hlodversson b. 960 Orkney, Scotland, d. 23 April 1013 Battle Clontarf, Dublin, Ireland
Brusi Sigurdsson b. 987 Orkney, Scotland, d. 1031 Orkney Islands, Scotland
Ragnvald Brusesson b. 1011 Orkney, Scotland, d. Dec. 1046 Papa Stronsay, Orkney Islands, Scotland
Robert De Brusse b. 1036 Carrick, Argyllshire, Scotland, d. 1031 Annan, Dumfries, Scotland
Adam Brus b. 1051 Carrick, Argyllshire, Scotland, d. 1081 Skelton Castle, Yorkshire, England
Robert Brus b. 1071 Skelton Castle, Yorkshire, England, d. 11 May 1141 Skelton, Yorkshire, England
Robert Brus b. 1103 Annandale, Dumfrieshire, Scotland, d. 1190 Annandale, Dumfrieshire, Scotland
William De Bruce b. 1142 Annandal, Dumfrieshire, Scotland, d. 1215 Annandale, Dumfrieshire, Scotland
Robert De Bruce b. 1164 Annandal, Dumfrieshire, Scotland, d. 1245 Saltre Abbey, Stilton, England
Robert Bruce b. 1210 Annandal, Dumfrieshire, Scotland, d. 1295 Priory, Lochmaben, Dumfrieshire, Scotland
Robert Bruce (6th Lord of Annandale) b. 1243 Annandal, Dumfrieshire, Scotland, d. 1304 Palestine, Jerusalem, Israel Married Marjorie Carrick b. 1255 Carrick, Soctland, d. 1292 Argyll, Scotland
Robert the Bruce, King of Scotland, b. 11 July, 1274, d. 7 June, 1329, first and eldest child of Robert Bruce, 6th Lord of Annandale and Marjorie Carrick. 1295 he married his first wife, Isabella of Mar and they had one child, Marjorie Bruce, who later married Walter Stewart and their child was the future Robert II of Scotland. In 1302 he married his second wife, Elizabeth de Burgh and the had the following children: David II, John, Matilda and Margaret. In 1316 he was also crowned King of Ireland and stated, "Whereas we and you and our people and your people, free since ancient times, share the same national ancestry and are urged to come together more eagerly and joyfully in friendship by a common language and by common custom, we have sent you our beloved kinsman, the bearers of this letter, to negotiate with you in our name and permanently strengthening and maintaining inviolate the special friendship between us and you, so that with God's will our nation (nostra nacio) may be able to recover her ancient liberty." In 1314 King Robert the Bruce secured independence from the British in the Battle of Bannockburn. He is buried at Dunfermline Abbey in Scotland.
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I too have some of these folks in my lineage. Svidri, The Sea King, really interested me. Robert the Bruce is there, though I'm not a direct descendent of him. It's odd how our families intertwine from Russia to Sweden to Finland to France to England to Scotland to Spain and on and on. Interesting stuff. I love the picture up top too!
ReplyDeleteSome of this people are my ancient ancestors through my Grandmother Mabel Irene Tremain Spencer (the Tremain line). This was interesting reading.....
ReplyDeleteSo where is Harold Blue Tooth in all this..
ReplyDeleteI had my DNA done & I'm mostly Irish & Scandanavian, & Great Britain(most likely Scots according to family ancestry)..But there was a wee bit of DNA from Finland that I was curious about. This makes that data make much more sense. Thanks!
ReplyDeleteI love learning of the Ancient kings.Do you have any books you,d recommend for further reading?
ReplyDeleteWho is the father of Fornjotur? Is he Scottish?
ReplyDeleteHe wasn't Scottish, he was from Kvenland (Finland)
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DeleteLovely. My Bruce ancestors. Direct Descendant thru my Bruce line and also my direct Stewart line leads to Marjorie, Matilda and Elizabeth Roberts daughters. ....Laurie Bruce
ReplyDeleteThis is wild because I am also descended of Robert the Bruce (thru the Montgomery line). BUT I also have like 1.3 percent Finnish genes that i have never been able to trace. Perhaps this is the link???
ReplyDeleteI have a path: Robert he Bruce is my 18th ggf. And my haplo 1I= I-M253 like Bruces. Interesting.
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